
Well construction on Bolero is just around the corner so I have been doing a few mockups to finalized the cabin design and the paint scheme. I think I am getting very close to a concept that fits my ideal. Much could change during construction but the theme should remain. I am currently considering bold deep red paint scheme and a more classic white scheme.
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I really enjoy your blog. I have been trying to decide between a Luders L-16 and a Shields for some time. I finally chose the Luders do to the small cabin. My budget won't allow me to purchase the Shields and make the modifications you plan but I really admire your drawings. Very much like a Dark Harbor 20 at much less cost.
Good Luck,
Mark
Thanks Mark,
I for one won't cast any stones toward you decision to get a Luders L-16. In my opinion they are one of the nicest small sailboat I have every seen. If I hadn't started with a 22 foot Bluenose Sloop I might have found my way into one as well. I was looking for a step up in size, speed and displacement and the Shields fit the bill.
I would have gladly gone the Dark Harbor 20 route since they have started making them in fiberglass but they ended up selling for $88,000. My budget may be larger than yours but it is nowhere near the new Dark Harbors.
Please send me some pictures of your Luders and any info you have. I certainly consider them Knockabout Sloops and I am woefully deficient in showcasing them on my blog.
Hi Bill,
Your comment about sending in images of any Luders 16 that the other person who posted might come across prompted me to send in a link to some pictures of a boat I used to own which I'm reminded of every time I check out your blog - a Roue R/20. It's the Bluenose's big sister, designed a few years before (she's design #20, modified with a longer stern overhang, the Bluenose sloop is design #161 - see http://www.joelro.com/wjr/DesignPortfolio.html for reference). Pictures of Swallow, the one that I owned are still posted on this site: http://www.ramoak.com/swallow.html. We sailed her for only two years before realizing that we wanted to cruise farther than she could comfortably take us, and have always missed the way she would sail beautifully in the lightest zephyr as well as weather a hearty blow (while getting her crew thoroughly soaked!).
I think what you're doing with the Shields is absolutely wonderful, and I watch your progress with great interest - can't wait to see the progress reports as they come, and of course the final result!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.
Cheers,
Chris
Hey Chris,
Thanks for your words of encouragement. It has been a pretty long haul to get to this point but now it is getting really fun.
I have looked at both of these sites often. I actually was very tempted by a wooden Roue 20 that was for sale a while back. They are quite beautiful and I still occasionally pull up the pictures of Sparrow and have gander.
I think that the best way to have great boats is to have great boats. Having a boat you hate to sell sure makes the next one special. So I imagine your current boat is pretty sweet if you sold the Roue 20 for it.
Bill
I own and love sailing by McVay Bluenose (#264). It is a fast & forgiving boat that is very easy to singlehand. But it is getting old & I am in the market for another, slightly larger, full-keeled FIBERGLASS boat with similar length/beam ratio. I have modified my Bluenose so that it can carry a 5 HP Honda. I am looking for a boat that has a cuddy cabin, but do not want toilets, stoves, etc. Any ideas?
John, Brighton, Lake Ontario, Canada
Well you pretty much summarized how I ended up creating my own larger version of my McVay Bluenose Sloop by modifying a Shields.
In my mind the obvious choice would be the Luders 16. I believe they are available in fiberglass. The only down side I feel is that they are a "smallish" upgrade from the Bluenose. I have never sailed one but I bet they rock.
Best of luck in you search and keep me posted.
Bill
Bill,
I am not sure how to forward photo's to you. I have pictures of about 15 different L-16's. They range from yard art to immaculate. I have a couple of pictures of one L-16 that has a modified cabin house and limited cruising functionality.
My budget was around $20K and I had to go over it by about $5K to end up with what I wanted. Our tastes in boats are very similar. Your plan for the Shields is very nice.
Mark
Hi Mark,
You can send me pictures at wre1962@yahoo.com. I will set up a post with your pictures and any words of history you may want to send along. I am particularly interest in the Luders L-16 that was modified for limited cruising. I heard that Doug Hylan modified one and I wonder if this is it.
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